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Milo Fine
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Milo's
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On being a musician in the Twin Cities
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Collaborating
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excerpt from the April 5th, 2002 concert
at the West Bank School of music with Davu Seru (soprano sax and percussion) and Steve Gnitka (guitar):
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Milo talking about
the transcendent potential of ordinary moments and music-making:
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Milo at the ensemble's concert at the West Bank School of Music in
Minneapolis, April 5th, 2002. |
"The quiet happiness of making this music"
Milo Fine is a Minneapolis-born and bred improvised
music/ free jazz musician who performs regularly but
infrequently in the
Twin Cities. Improvised music is, according to Milo's
definition, "composition in real time." He also teaches music at the West Bank School
of Music and does other kinds of work to make ends meet,
while maintaining a simple, low-cost way of life. His
web site lists his released recordings and offers the chance to
purchase them, as well as a listing of concert dates, background information, and a section on aesthetics.
These pages
attempt to communicate some of Milo's musical background,
and his complex set of
philosophies regarding art generally and music specifically.
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The Milo Fine Free Jazz Ensemble
Today Milo Fine’s Free Jazz
Ensemble has two regular members: Milo and his guitarist
Steve Gnitka. The two have played together since late 1975:
“We’re an old married couple,” laughed Milo. There is a
group of other local musicians who collaborate with Milo and
Steve at their regular gig at the West Bank School of Music,
which happens the first Friday of every other month. (See
Milo’s web site for details.) These guest artists include
Davu Seru on percussion and soprano sax, Patrick Crossland on
trombone, John O’Brien on trumpet and flugelhorn, Nathan
Smith on acoustic bass and guitar, and bass clarinet, Andrew
Lafkas on acoustic bass, Scott Newell on tenor sax and
voice, and Jason Shapiro on synthesizer and piano.
Milo on
being a musician in the Twin Cities
Milo compares his feelings about living in Minneapolis
with author Thomas Bernhard’s feelings about Vienna, his home. Bernhard decried Vienna, and wrote about the
conflict between city and country; he always wanted the city
when he was in the country, and vice versa; he always wanted
the other and hated them both. Milo says there is no ideal
place to live: “For the kind of music I play, yeah, there’s
an audience, but for the way I go about it, no, there really
isn’t, if you want to count numbers ... I don’t think there
is a good place, quite frankly ... the point to me is the
work, so it really doesn’t matter where I am.” Even when the
City Pages (the major Twin Cities arts/news weekly) wrote a
favorable article on him in September 1999, only eight people came
to the following performance. Milo was not disappointed;
he’d rather have a small audience of genuinely curious
people than a large one comprising people concerned with
being trendy.
Milo has a strong distaste for aspects
of the local arts scene: “This is an incredibly provincial
area, the fact that the cliques are so finely knit they
might as well be a smooth, hard surface, I don’t think is
that much different from other places.” He grants that in
New York he could probably work more, but he thinks the
honeymoon would end soon enough: “If I can piss off the arts
bureaucrats here, why bother going to New York?” Milo says
that free jazz and improvised music today is run the same
way as a major corporation, "you have people who decide
who's flavor of the month ... magazines filled with the same
hype phrases ... I'm trying to avoid the cult of
personality, image-mongering, hype, and all the attendant
nonsense ..." When he started playing in 1969, free jazz was
an amorphous scene, the promoters and the current system
were not in place, and people were idealistic, thinking the
music could have an impact on the world.
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Milo doesn’t get out to see much live
music locally, but he says if he lived in
London, for instance, he’d be going out to hear music all the time because
there's a consistent presentation of vital, creative music there.
Milo tends to plan gigs by the year;
he’d rather go through a couple of days of coordinating
people’s schedules, stick the dates up on the web site, and
be done with it. He’s “incredibly grateful” to have the West
Bank School of Music as his home base; “It’s a no-fuss,
no-muss deal.” Even when he was more busy publicly, Milo did
all his own bookings and he even started his own label; he
saw the risks of giving control to business interests and
has been practicing self-determination since 1970.
Milo’s label
It might seem counter-intuitive to make recordings of
improvised music that’s never the same twice, but Milo says
he started his label in 1972 just to document what he was
doing. He cited English guitarist Derek Bailey in saying
that documenting improvised music is a way of perhaps
facilitating work, if people want to check out what groups
are up to. Milo wanted the label to operate outside the
realm of business; the last recording he sold out of was in
2000: it took 25 years to sell 550 copies. Milo says this is
appropriate, given the way he’s trying to conduct his life.
He’s not interested in appealing to the masses; he
likes it that people have to make an effort to get his
recordings, and he likes to buy recordings the same way,
through hands-on distribution.
The audience
Milo thinks that anyone who's in touch with how their
mind functions can get something out of his music. Audience
applause often determines the end of a piece. He likes
playing in a small room; it de-mystifies the effort people
make with the process of improvisation. For him, being an
audience for improvised music is like watching someone do
research, or anything where they're concentrating on
something they really chose to do. In a really practical
way, he sees music's function in society as giving something
for the mind to chew on. He has been adversely affected by
an audience, when he sensed a hostility from the audience,
but more often he's enjoying the "breathing together"
feeling of surprise shared with the audience.
The performing space itself can
contribute to the music. Milo has an LP where a piece ends
with the sound of a bus pulling away outside; on another
piece from a CD, his drum stick fell off the trap case and Milo told
the recording engineer to leave it in:
"That can become a highlight of a night, when you
weren't doing a damn thing and (sounds simply occur)."
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Collaborating
Milo thinks formal organizations are a disease that
automatically end up being antithetical to what they started
out doing. He likes informal organizations of people having
dialogue and developing healthy collaborative
relationships; that's how he balances the individual
and the collective. He says that in playing music, you have
a certain trust in people, not that they're going to do what
you want them to, but that they're going to do something in
the moment that speaks to where they are and where the group
is. If you listen to some of the ensemble's music, you might
zero in on what someone is doing; in jazz this would be
called a solo, but with Milo's ensemble, someone else in the
audience might be zeroing in on what someone else is doing;
who's doing the "solo," depends on the perception of each
audience member.
Milo says that most of the people he
works with are coming from a certain perspective, everyone
with an interest in modern music, but he'd like to think
that a really sensitive polka player, traditional classical,
or bebop musician could play with the ensemble. (Although he
doesn't think many musicians from other fields would be attracted to
what his group does.) Milo likes to get together and work
with other musicians in private, to see how things develop
over time. He says his personality has a strong controlling
element, so his music collaborations are a healthy way to
abdicate control. Milo has done music for dance and theater
productions in the past, and is open to such
inter-disciplinary projects, but they don't present
themselves often due to his eschewing of the arts scene and
its overt networking.
Milo's process
It may seem counter-intuitive to rehearse for improvised
music, but Milo does a fair amount of practicing, a couple of hours daily. He
jokingly says that the practicing is to develop muscle
memory, so if he has a stroke or something, they can
just prop him up in front of a piano and he'll still be able
to play. It's partly physical upkeep, such as limb and digit
flexibility. His practicing tends to be denser than
things he'll do in performance. A fair amount of his
rehearsing is endurance playing, trying to expand his
musical vocabulary and keeping on top of the music in terms
of freshness. He's quick to point out that freshness
for its own sake would not be a goal of his, he wouldn't
want to try too hard for that, it would be like looking for
enlightenment. "To keep the atoms and molecules bouncing off
each other in undiscovered patterns, the key is not thinking
about something too much or not enough."
Usually when a gig is coming up, Milo
has a thought of what he's going to be playing. The clarinet
and piano are steady, and what changes from performance to
performance is the percussion, which varies between drums,
m-drums II, or the marimba, the latter two using low-tech electronics such as
ring modulators, a fuzz tone, and a trigger device. One day
he practices the piano and whatever the main percussion
instrument is, then the next day he practices horns, then the
next percussion instrument. In concert, during performance, he
has no idea what instrument he'll go to first; he'll stand,
and wait, and sit, and wait, he'll go to an instrument and
just do one thing on it and then go away from it. Milo says
that thinking orchestrally gets you out of the ego-driven
jazz solo mentality. Milo talks about the music as
being a meeting ground where he doesn't have total control
over the instruments. He tries to avoid having favorite
instruments for creating certain sounds; he is attempting to
get away from a hardwired perception of sounds.
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